Why Not Both is a podcast about how multiple passions inform the inspiring lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. It is hosted by Pam Shaffer, who is a musician and therapist in Los Angeles, and produced by Laura Studarus, who is a writer and photographer in Los Angeles.

We partnered with Under The Radar for her second season so expect to hear from more musicians, writers and artists in the coming episodes.

Find us on your favorite podcast platform!
Apple
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-not-both/id1462717484
Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/show/3n6IsA0GOubRQb6bOUrlFI
Stitcher
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pam-shaffer/why-not-both
GooglePlay
https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Ist4zb662rcuqii2yyuifwsehym

Kathleen Hanna on creativity and sharing your platform
1:07:39
Kathleen Hanna on creativity and sharing your platform
Allison Russell on how community is vital to creativity
48:28
Allison Russell on how community is vital to creativity
Julien Baker of Boygenius on queer narratives and diverse creativity
1:01:29
Julien Baker of Boygenius on queer narratives and diverse creativity
Jensen McRae on creativity, self-compassion, and storytelling
1:42:04
Jensen McRae on creativity, self-compassion, and storytelling
Ólafur Arnalds on creative obsession and finding new ways to express old ideas
1:00:20
Ólafur Arnalds on creative obsession and finding new ways to express old ideas
Best of Why Not Both: Aurora x Sudan Archives x HANA
43:33
Best of Why Not Both: Aurora x Sudan Archives x HANA
Ep 131: Elias Rønnenfelt of Iceage on how death is the ultimate boss
47:37
Ep 131: Elias Rønnenfelt of Iceage on how death is the ultimate boss
Ep 130: Harper Simon x Julia Holter on creativity, crime and medieval love affairs
1:14:36
Ep 130: Harper Simon x Julia Holter on creativity, crime and medieval love affairs
Ep 129: Tove Lo on creative joy and the magic of body acceptance
49:12
Ep 129: Tove Lo on creative joy and the magic of body acceptance
Ep 128: S.G. Goodman on powerful songs and political activism
39:16
Ep 128: S.G. Goodman on powerful songs and political activism
Ep 127: Eerie Wanda and the art of near death experiences
1:11:21
Ep 127: Eerie Wanda and the art of near death experiences
Ep 126: Bryce Drew on collaboration and the importance of leading a colorful life
55:43
Ep 126: Bryce Drew on collaboration and the importance of leading a colorful life
Ep 125: John Darnielle of the Mountain Goats on creativity and absurdity
1:22:53
Ep 125: John Darnielle of the Mountain Goats on creativity and absurdity
Ep 124: MØ on music and microcosms
44:12
Ep 124: MØ on music and microcosms
Ep 123: Dana Schwartz & Korama Danquah on vampires, historical accuracy, and being terminally online
1:06:11
Ep 123: Dana Schwartz & Korama Danquah on vampires, historical accuracy, and being terminally online
Ep 122: Pony Sweat on the tender magic of dance aerobics
1:06:27
Ep 122: Pony Sweat on the tender magic of dance aerobics
Ep 121: Why Zola Jesus moved to the woods
1:13:52
Ep 121: Why Zola Jesus moved to the woods
Ep 120: Ellie Pritts on the importance of frogs
59:05
Ep 120: Ellie Pritts on the importance of frogs
Ep 119: Stoya on making art, valuing mental health, and dressing up as your favorite wrestler
1:38:14
Ep 119: Stoya on making art, valuing mental health, and dressing up as your favorite wrestler
Ep 118: Nabil Ayers on accidentally writing a book and running a record label
55:13
Ep 118: Nabil Ayers on accidentally writing a book and running a record label
Ep 117: Mal Blum on life, death, and power tools
1:30:01
Ep 117: Mal Blum on life, death, and power tools
Bonus Ep 7: Katie Thiroux
56:48
Bonus Ep 7: Katie Thiroux
Ep 116: Cadence Weapon
1:05:40
Ep 116: Cadence Weapon
Ep 115: Simone Merli of Soundwalk Collective
1:01:49
Ep 115: Simone Merli of Soundwalk Collective
Why Not Both Ep 114: Kae Tempest
1:05:15
Why Not Both Ep 114: Kae Tempest
Why Not Both Ep 113: BANKS
46:04
Why Not Both Ep 113: BANKS
Why Not Both Bonus Episode 6: Gay Hollywood
1:25:39
Why Not Both Bonus Episode 6: Gay Hollywood
Why Not Both Ep 112: John Vanderslice
57:29
Why Not Both Ep 112: John Vanderslice
Why Not Both Ep 111: Yoni Wolf
1:10:37
Why Not Both Ep 111: Yoni Wolf
Why Not Both Ep 110: Hrishikesh Hirway of Song Exploder
58:50
Why Not Both Ep 110: Hrishikesh Hirway of Song Exploder